Reader Question- Is Crafted PvP Gear Dead in 4.2?

Hey Folks!

I thought I would "calm the storm" of a valuable market in Cata. One of my readers, Riffraph, noted that he has made a ton of bank from crafting PvP gear, and is worried about losing his "niche" market on his server with 4.2 and the better ilvl gear hitting the shelves.....tis true, that will change, but in a good way.




Without knowing what "set" he was working with, I know alot of folks that have made quite a bit of coin from them (or what is considered the PvP sets); Bloodied Pyrium, the Ornate Pyrium, Bloodied Dragonscale, Wyrmhide, Fireweave, etc.

Fear not, folks, although there is a "slight" change....

Once you download Patch 4.2, you will see your skills updated. No, not the skills you use to kill your squirrels while farming, but your crafted gear. Lemme go to wowhead and take a slice of their pie to explain (mouse-over the items for the new ilvl). This little list is also helpful for you 'smithers that are wondering what the cost for the full set is too. =)

Recipe / SkillCostProductReagentsFull Set60 4 15Bloodthirsty Pyrium
Click to view set pieces

• Bloodthirsty Pyrium Bracers
• Bloodthirsty Pyrium Belt
• Bloodthirsty Pyrium Shoulders
• Bloodthirsty Pyrium Legguards
• Bloodthirsty Pyrium Helm
• Bloodthirsty Pyrium Gauntlets
• Bloodthirsty Pyrium Boots
• Bloodthirsty Pyrium Breastplate

97 80Full Set60 4 15Bloodthirsty Ornate Pyrium
Click to view set pieces

• Bloodthirsty Ornate Pyrium Bracers
• Bloodthirsty Ornate Pyrium Belt
• Bloodthirsty Ornate Pyrium Shoulders
• Bloodthirsty Ornate Pyrium Legguards
• Bloodthirsty Ornate Pyrium Helm
• Bloodthirsty Ornate Pyrium Gauntlets
• Bloodthirsty Ornate Pyrium Boots
• Bloodthirsty Ornate Pyrium Breastplate

97 80

The crafted pvp gear changes are going from the old (bloodied) i339 to the new (bloodthirsty) i358. What we are seeing is that the Firelands Raid "dropped" recipes are to be i378, epic crafted weapons are i365, respectively. What does this mean? Well, you should be absolutely killing the market with the new crafts that "magically" appear in your window. A big thanks to Blizz on that one. So craft it up, get em on the AH asap! Remember, if you aren't first in the gold game, you are last. Get the sales, keep the market, and watch the gold fly in!

Yeah. I figured. You already had it planned out to do this. For those that hadn't, here's a little checklist for you (new patch, first day):

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1. Open all craftable windows- what I mean here is get on your toons, see what's new or what has changed (especially in this case, see above).

2. Check trainer for....well....training. You would be surprised what shows up even if you are prepared from patch notes, blogs, etc.

3. Reset all your Auctions. I am sure to hear some flak on this one, but you want the freshest and bestest prices going. Quick sales= Quick gold= Quick recrafts= More gold. Don't fall into the "I double the price of "x" material, because sooner or later the ones under me will sell". Nope. With all the information that is out there on gold making, you cant risk it. Sell 10 of X item in the first day for 200g profit? Or sell one of X item in 10 days with 200g profit (because you weren't pushing the market, and it stabilized when yours didn't sell).

4. If you hadn't already, do a mini stockpile of the mats you need- on the market(s)with zero competition. Anytime I put a craftable item in the AH, I usually set two up for the same price, then have one in stock in my bag. When one sells, repost, then rock up another piece for your bags. Constant flow= Constant gold.

5. Keep tabs on Wowhead, MMOChampion, and Blogroll- This is a biggie. Once again, there is a ton of information that is out there, and you can't do everything at once. That's where the help comes in. There are great resources out there, make sure and use them!

6. Check Farm locations, usually herb and ore spots. This is a biggie. Now we know there are an absolute ton of dailies coming out, but if you go off the past information we have had, be it whiptail spawn-rates, ZG epics, etc, patches bring gold for farmers. Once again, keep on a lookout for these locations.

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There it is. Getcha ready for the patch, get logged in, and make some gold! Look for posts this week on the new scoops in 4.2 as they come out.

Oh, and if you didn't figure the answer for the question.......Hell's No's! It's gonna be just as good of a seller as the "old" sets! Getta move on, little doggie!

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It's Mothers Day!....IRL Herbalism for Alto and Ma.

Hey Folks! Hope you are treating your mom with some love today!

My ma is great. She does so much for me that I often feel that I can never repay her, so any chance I have to give back or do something for her I jump on it. I think my sister has a hidden hatred towards me due to that I am always one upping her on gifts or time spent with our mom, so now, no matter what I get for her for the "holidays" (birthday, mom's day, anniversary, christmas, etc) I just say that it's from the both of us. Makes life easier.

Speaking of making life easier, a "thing" that we do every year is plant/garden. It's something we both enjoy (other than in my younger years trying to "hide" a nice skunky smelling plant in her tomato garden....little did I know that in the 60's her neighbor was a "grower"- needless to say she knew what they looked like...ugh). A common occurence is splitting plants (hostas/creepers) and flipping them from house to house. It's a good feeling sowing seeds and letting the plants see a new scenery now and then. Believe it or not, they seem to grow better and bigger when transplanted. Not sure why, but hey. Whatever works.

One thing that gets me is that she knows. She knows what plant was planted when, when they flower, when to transplant, and when they reseed (sound like WoW yet? Gatherer Addon? Sure. My Mom is my real life addon for plants).


Doing this with her keeps us with a strong personal bond. It's something that lets us both not think of anything else, we rarely chat during our projects, it's almost zen....or meditation...or yoga.....whatever you call it, it's basically relaxing.

I got a bit off tangent there, but in RL and in WoW, it's basically the same for me. When I herb (and mine) I enjoy it. It's relaxing. A stress reliever. I get to go out, enjoy the visuals of the programming in game, and as a side addition, I make a ton of gold in the process. Now I am not one that can farm like this for hours on end, daily, or even weekly, but what I can do is have fun.

There have been quite a few spots that I venture to. One of my favorite all time for herbs is a very dense spot in Eastern Plaguelands (quite a bit of Sungrass, quick respawns, and an easy route.




Now of course Wintergrasp is a great spot, Sholozar Basin, and of course I like Uldum for the Whiptail. Ok, you got me. I love Uldum for the Whiptail....

As you all know, I am far from a hater of farming. It's a viable goldmine whether you are a herbie, a miner, a skinner, or just a killa dilla DPS. Whoever says that farming isn't needs to stop blogging. AH time is great, you can make great GPH, but you also end up not even knowing that The Shattering has occured (yeah, there are folks that haven't been out of ORG or Stormwind since then....).

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Don't Forget them Huntard's! Certificate of Ownership

So all the Hunter's out there know about this, and most other folks do as well, but I just want to give you a quick reminder...

Do me a favor, check the Certificate of Ownership on your AH. Now, check your bags/banks/alts for Celestial Ink (or even a great use for all the Blackfallow Ink that is collecting dust in your bank). Got some? I figured you did. Now check some other prices on the mats. Profitable? Yeah, I figured as much. Now you aren't gonna make a killing, but you will make a nice little profit....You just gotta remember to keep them posted.....and that's a whole other issue, huh?

If not, you Got Mill (here's a previous post on finding herbs to mill)? Got Herbs?

You don't? How about hitting up Eastern Plaguelands? There is a killa spot that I have used many times for farming Sungrass, and by the time you hit the "loop", you already have respawns....

BTW, thanks Indy for the reminder on these....it's always nice to get back into another market that I forgot about (and no, 420 had nothing to do with my memory...).

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Guild Perk: Bountiful Bags

Did you see it coming? I hope you did. Bountiful Bags is a guild perk that most "highend" guilds have recently hit. How does this affect you?

Now without going into too much detail (as I am not guilded in one that high currently), I spoke with a gent and he mentioned that there is around a 10-15% proc. I imagine you are thinking the same thing that I am here. More ore, more leather, more herbs, and more dust and essences....

*EDIT- It seems that this is also working with Archaelogy Fragements as well....I am sure this will get nerfed by the kind folks at blizz.....You might see an influx of some Arch "junk" hitting your AH. If you have the perk available, get em while you can! - - - - - - - - - It seems to have a double "proc" - - - - - - - -

Wowiki explains this as:

Bountiful Bags is a Guild Perk granted at guild level 23 that increases the amount of materials gained from Mining, Skinning, Herbalism, and Disenchanting.

Wowhead has some great comments already:

By fenriradra (1) yesterday at 11:05 PM (Patch 4.0.6)

My guild has earned level 23, with this perk.

So far, after herbing a TON of ice cap & mountain silversage (for milling on a different toon, for darkmoon decks O.o)

it's looking very much like a 15% chance when you gather for a double-loot.

The extra loot seems like it's treated like an extra node you gathered from, and rerolled for quantity, but it will not contain any extra stuff like volatile life/etc, just the base material. This was after gathering a small sample of about 200 whiptail in Uldum.

By PROXiCiDE (4) today at 8:12 AM (Patch 4.0.6)

Our guild hit this yesterday morning and on one Copper Vien, i got 10 Copper Ore from it i was amazed but it seems that it looks this could be a proc than anything. Because i will mine agian and it would be normalized ore from the vien

Now before you say "The bots aren't in guilds"....well, you might be right, but you might be wrong. I guess you have to look at it both ways here. Let me ask you this....If you are in a guild with the "bountiful bag" perk, are you NOT going to hit up a few herbs, rock some ore, or skin up some beasts? You might....You might not.....But you mos def are probably doing the Obsidium Shuffle (especially if you are reading this). Be prepared for a volatile market coming soon.

This is what I can see happening on the "higher end" servers. The dust and essences are gonna be falling. Which in turn the snowball affect will happen with scrolls for Cata enchants (if they aren't tanked already). Get busy livin, or get busy dying....

So whatcha gonna do? How will this affect your server? Are you going to keep an eye out? Or do you not care, just roll with it?

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Gatherer Addon- An Oldie But A Goodie

A bit back, when we got lucky [thanks Blizz] with the Whiptail spawns going crazy, I made a post (4.0.6- Herbalism After Hotfix) on my little route that I was making a killing off of. There was a comment that asked about what addon I used to get the "timer" on the spawns. Thanks to our little "Gatherer" addon, I was able to get some extremly accurate information on the spawnrates.

Upon a "mouseover", you can get a bit of information (this screenie is on herbs, but it works with ore as well). You can see the last time that YOU picked the node (not if someone ninja'd it from you), the distance, and what actually spawned at that point. The pic to the right shows what is in your "immediate" area, listing circles where the nodes have previously spawned (and in this pic, you can see an acual node respawn).

Now we are gonna hit a little bit on how to use the "gunk" of the addon. In your chat pane, hit up a /gatherer to pull up your available options, which should look something like this:

If you click on General, it will pull up this screen. To have the settings like I use, you need to have the "Display nodes on WorldMap" checked (highlighted in yellow in the near upper left of the window).

Next, you will need to go to the Minimap on the left side, right below your General options. Here, you will need to click [or check] the "Display nodes on Minimap" option. This will allow you to see nodes all over the place. If you are using the addon and see any glitches upon clicking these, go back into your /say or /chat and use the command /reset. This will reset your UI and will allow you to use full capability.

There are a few other options that you can use, however I prefer to keep the simplicity for only the things that I use, I am sure folks that use this will add in comments if there are other options that they enjoy (and a how-to) in case I missed something.

Now I am guessing that there are some folks that are thinking "It's not worth my time to gather (mine or herb), I make more at the AH". Well, if you enjoy sitting at the auction house all the time and don't get out in the real world, well, that's your perogative. As of late, I am enjoying getting back into the game, and after an hour in Twilight Higlands picking Jasmine and mining Elementium Ore and Pyrite, I hit 2200g (pending auction sales) in 60:02 minutes. Without going into further detail on that (I know, you guys probably miss that), even fighting a drood "bot" (i think at least), I still had no issues hitting the over 2K GPH.  =)



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Did you Forget Something? Dust off those Unused Professions!

JMTC has their carnival tomorrow, and here is my "entry" post.  If you haven't already, I want you go over and check it out, as there are quite a few bloggers now with a ton of information. Now for my post, here is how you should start taking on specializing and diversifying the AH on your server. Ready? Set? Go!



Pic from Jack Nadels:
Use What You Have
To Get What You Want



How good are you on the AH? Have you hit 10K, 50K, 500K, a Million? Whichever spot you are at, you mos def need to use what you have to get there. Think about that a second.....

Use what you have. Now this is gonna be completely common sense, but hear me out, as this basic necessity may have passed you by. Use what you have.....

If you are stuck at X amount of gold and wondering why, I can give you one answer (but do you really want to hear it again?) "USE WHAT YOU HAVE". I mean really use it. If you have a toon, and your have Jewelcrafting and Leatherworking (just a for instance here, it can be anything, keep reading...), and you only cut gems and post, what is happening with your other craft? Nothing? Collecting dust? Get the Pledge out and dust that off!

You have professions for a reason, be it to craft goods for yourself or your guild, add to your "buffs" from the profs, but most of you reading this will have a profession for making gold. So why aren't you using it to post your AH? Because you don't want to hit your next 100K mark. That is the only answer you can give. I won't believe anything else.

"Well Alto, it's only 420"

So go burn one. Wait, what? Really, you need to utilize that prof to make you gold. There is probably a reason you stopped leveling. Raiding, got bored, ran outta cash, etc. Whatever excuse you had, you stopped. Pick it back up. If you stopped leveling it, my guess is you also have random mats in your bank near that level too. Use them. Check TuJ or wowhead to see what is available at that level. In leatherworking, there are quite a few niche markets, not all sell daily, but often enough to make a profit. See where I am going with this? Good. Now get it done.

"Alto, I stopped at 515 because I ran out of materials, and the cost was too high"

I am gonna guess that was a few months ago now. The mats have dropped considerably since then, and you need to recheck the AH again. Get up to "cap", and then get some epix recipies (I am still using the leatherworking as an example, but this works with most "crafting" profs other than scribes- as Cata added very little to that prof glyph wise). You spent time leveling that to get to the 515, go that little bit further, because now is the time to make your $$, before 4.1 and a bit after that they will still be selling too (for the ilvl requirements for the heroic 5 mans).

"Bah. There's too much competition"

I have to call bullshit on that one. I really, really, hate that. Too much competition to me means "I am too lazy to look at the different areas". I can personally guarantee there is a niche market somewhere in each profession. Glyphs? "I get undercut". Ok, I believe you. But I bet there are glyphs that aren't even up in the AH right now. It might be a level 25 glyph that sold for 12g last post, but if there isn't one there, it won't sell, amirite? I am. Check. Spend your time, and it will payoff. Guaranteed. Oh, you are a Jewelcrafter? "The gems are worthless, all of them". I call bullshit again...Ok, so you must have every single cut available, along with every "crafted" necklace, ring, etc. And you have checked each one of them at the AH. I bet there are at least 5 "cut" gems that aren't even on your AH. And the crafteds? Yeah, probably half of them aren't on their either....

"Well, to tell you the truth, I was looking at changing profs to XXXXX, because I am bored of it, and haven't used tailoring in a while"

Look above at that answer. Have you checked EVERY possible craft? Are you posting EVERY possible craft? Once again, I see so many folks that don't utilize what they can, or should be, posting daily. You aren't on everyday? Post 24 or 48 hours.....

"God Alto, you know how much AH fees I will lose on 48 hour posts?"

Yeah, I do. But you know how much profit you are losing? You are gonna risk a 10g AH fee if it doesn't sell against a 2-4K profit? Once again, that is one of the worst excuses I have heard. You know Johnny, if you keep saying this stuff, I am gonna have to kick you outta class, I don't think you are even reading what I am talking about....


So in order to specialize and diversify, you need to first see what you can do, what markets (or niches) you have available in your AH, and what time you are willing to spend to find what you are looking for. If you have more money than time, or are just stuck, you can always go to my coaching program and I can assist you in finding what you have been searching for.....gold.

Now log into your toon and start crafting and posting. Then after you sell some, come back and holler. Chanks!

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Alto vs. 4.0.6 - Herbalism in Uldum and Deepholm and Design: Burning Shadowspirit Diamond?!

Ok, ok. All of a sudden I am versus everyone, everything. Well, lately I think that's just how not just my WoW life has been, but "real" life as well. I won't go into that, because that isn't why you are here.

This is going to be an update post throughout the night, as I get information, you will be the first to know. So let it be that if you are reading this right now, you need to keep checking back. If you see something that I don't hit on, feel free to update in the comments below.

I am still on my search for the "rare" beasts that has been mentioned in the PTR notes. No such luck as of yet. But I have seen a few things:

4.0.6 Changes Seen So Far

PvP prices raised, 1K more conquest points.

The add-on Bagnon is broken. *Edit- It has been updated

Spawn rates on Herbs Nerfed? Nerf Faids!
Azuriel just noted that the Daily Transmute for Alchemists is Busted....Anyone else see that?

I don't think blizz planned this one out too well. I mean...... .02 sec. Really? Cmon folks.....

If you are a 'scribe, get to the Trainer, as they added a new glyph in the patch, and toss it on the AH. Quickly. If you don't, someone will beat you.

Sinzi Sparkscribe. Ink Trader. Org. No more needing to hit up Dal. I am sure there is an ally mirror of a trader there as well. We knew this was coming (once again forgot who coined it) Figured you might want a little screenie anyways....

Just as a reminder, check your Blackfallow Ink and Inferno Ink prices to see if a flip is in order (10 Blackfallow per Inferno) to make some coin.

 *Update from Alberthus from Fighting Coin:

Sarana Damir: Alliance Side:

Thanks Alberthus! I don't play on ally side anymore, so I appreciate the pic!

Yeah, I really hate TSM. Have I said that already? I had a few Blackfallow's in my bag, and upon checking Sinzi's wares, I walked away and saw this. Really? This addon is now deleted.....I did nothing for this to happen, no clicking, nothing. Total Bullshit.

Now I hope you listened to me when I told you about saving up three Jewelcrafter Tokens to get this Design, because in the time that I bought it, crafted a few (5), tossed em on the AH and barked once before hitting my farm spot (see below) to test the "new" droprate of Tiny Treasure Chests, I had sold all of them. At 359g each..... =)

If you didn't listen, do so now. Someone might have beat you to the punch though....

Ok, something I was looking forward to wasn't the "reverse" nerf with the Potion of Treasure Finding. You nerfed it alright. The wrong way. Unless I was totally unlucky, but doubt it due to a blue drop. I hit up my Hyjal spot (you all know my fav farm spot- still not changed with the respawn rate, btw), popped a pot, and got 10 chests. Uhm. Not what I expected, as I pounded the mobs there (look below for that one). So pffft. Gonna try again after I finish this post, and will update.

Now I don't play my rogue too much, and truthfully, don't pay much attention, but after clicking Blade Flurry on a double mob, it stayed on the top of my taskbar. Like not costing a cooldown. Nice. Not sure if this is an intentional change (didn't look yet), but I will continue farming on him throughout tonight, hoping for one of the world drops.

Nerf Faids did a post on possible "over" nerf of Heartblossom and Whiptail. Now I had too much competition in Uldum to check, but I reset Gatherer when I noticed there was only one cat running in Deepholm (think he's a bot anyways, takes alot of time sitting at a node before picking it, and didn't respond to me...). But here's a screenie. Seems better, but I haven't really farmed herbs for quite some time, unless we are talking TolBarad. I took a flight around the map, and this seems to be the spot.....

Nerf Faids hit up this spot in lower Uldum, it's crazy spawns. I finially got a chance to get down there, and even though there is competition, I am still getting great rates. I am with Faid when she said that the Volatile Life stockpilers better start worrying, as even though I have seen a slight rise in price, I am getting around 100 per hour currently between uldum and deepholm.

Can we say "Twilight Highlands Nerf" again? Jeebus. No daughter tonight, I know where I am hanging until the hotfix tomorrow, we all know that's coming. Get while the gettin's good folks!

Wow. Not sure what to do with it now.....12K fresh out the AH. Hmmm. Relisted for 125k. Let's see how desperate someone is. Or how bad the haters are.....

I think I will give it an hour or two. What do you all think? Seen any yet? Wondering about droprates....

As I mentioned, I will keep you posted on the findings throughout the night, and it will be on this post, so if you are searching too, check back frequently...

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